Discourage contributors to use operator=RFF and operator=ERDF in France

[francois.lacombe]

Hi,

Both RFF and ERDF companies have changed their identity recently or in 2015.
As infrastructure operators, the map currently contains dozen objects with operator=RFF and operator=ERDF spread in the whole metropolitan French country.

As abbreviations, it's not correct to discourage their use all around the world.
But it may be possible to create a validation rule to warn users about objects with those 2 values located in France ?
French relation : ​http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2202162

Correct values are :
operator=RFF => operator=SNCF Réseau
operator=ERDF => operator=Enedis

Keep up with good work guys ;)

[Klumbumbus]

It is not yet possible to limit the area of validation rules. For now you could add "France-specific rules" similar to the others at Rules

[Klumbumbus]

Replying to Klumbumbus:

limit the area of validation rules

There was already a short discussion in another ticket whose number I don't remember.

[Don-vip]

#10387 it's still on my todo list...

[Klumbumbus]

On the other hand, I think this special case is a good candidate for a (previously in the french community discussed) automated edit.

(area limited validation rules would still be nice to have though)

[simon04]

Milestone renamed

[Don-vip]

In 11247/josm:

see #9400 - see #10387 - see #12914 - initial implementation of boundaries file, replacing left-right-hand-traffic.osm, discourage contributors to use operator=RFF and operator=ERDF in France (territories rules must be manually eabled on existing installations)

[Klumbumbus]

One of the validator rules is actually obsolete meanwhile. ​http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/operator=RFF is used only once.

[francois.lacombe]

The tag had been conscientiously replaced by the current value by knowledgable mappers.
The rule can be edited like 'RFF used to be French national railway operator. Be sure you know what you are doing'.
This value may not be used anymore for railway operation in France.

Question : where did you get this awesome graph of tag usage ? Is taginfo producing it on a daily basis ?

[Klumbumbus]

Replying to francois.lacombe:

Question : where did you get this awesome graph of tag usage ? Is taginfo producing it on a daily basis ?

It's a new tool, see ​https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TagHistory

Very interesting examples at ​http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Math1985/diary/39404 Also visualizes the influence of JOSM Presets/Validator on tagging.

[Don-vip]

In 11259/josm:

see #10387 - see #12914 - add debug info for failing unit test, remove operator=RFF check as the tag does not exist anymore

[Don-vip]

Milestone renamed

[Don-vip]

In 11424/josm:

fix #10387, fix #12914 - enable territorial rules by default

[francois.lacombe]

Hi Vincent,

Right on time to close 2016 en a very positive release :)

Happy New Year and thank you for all that good work!

François

[Don-vip]

In 16093/josm:

see #12914, see #18552, see #18640 - move out French-specific rules to https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Rules/FranceSpecificRules