Never hide presets menu

[skyper]

As the item "Preset preferences" in presets menu is always active, please, never hide or deactivate the menu completely but rather some items.

Is it useful to silently hide menus completely?

What steps will reproduce the problem?

1. open presets' preferences through Presets menu -> Preset preferences
2. delete all active presets on right side
3. save and close preferences

What is the expected result?

Presets menu still available and only "Preset preferences" item active.

What happens instead?

Presets menu completely hidden.

Please provide any additional information below. Attach a screenshot if possible.

• Similar is the situation without data layer. There the presets menu is visible but deactivated instead of active menu and all items, but "Search preset..." and "Preset preferences", disabled.
• Without selection all presets and could be rather deactivated than presenting a warning when chosen.

While talking about hiding menus, the tools menu and the selection menu could be disabled (or even hidden) without data layer.

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[simon04]

In 16285/josm:

fix #19021 - MainMenu: disable menus without edit layer: mode, tools, more tools, selection, not presets

[skyper]

Deleting all active presets in preferences still hides the preset menu and I can not reach the shortcut to preset preferences.

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Last:Changed Date: 2020-04-13 22:05:56 +0200 (Mon, 13 Apr 2020)
Revision:16294
Build-Date:2020-04-14 01:30:47
URL:https://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn/trunk

[simon04]

Revision:16303
Is-Local-Build:true
Build-Date:2020-04-15 20:53:35

Identification: JOSM/1.5 (16303 SVN en_GB) Linux Arch Linux
Memory Usage: 753 MB / 3972 MB (544 MB allocated, but free)
Java version: 11.0.6+10, Oracle Corporation, OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM
Screen: :0.0 3840x2160
Maximum Screen Size: 3840x2160
VM arguments: [-Djosm.home=<josm.pref>/]
Program arguments: [--set=expert=true, --set=iso.dates=true]

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Preset preferences had never supported shortcuts (neither does imagery preferences).

[Klumbumbus]

Replying to skyper:

I can not reach the shortcut to preset preferences.

There is no need to make it all extra complex for that special special case that probably nobody ever will face:

• deleted all presets
• looking at the News page
• want to open preset preferences

And even then there are other ways to open the preferences.

[skyper]

screenshot

[skyper]

Does not work for me:

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Last:Changed Date: 2020-04-15 23:44:38 +0200 (Wed, 15 Apr 2020)
Revision:16314
Build-Date:2020-04-16 01:30:46
URL:https://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn/trunk

Plugins:
+ tagging-preset-tester (35267)

It just makes no sense to hide menus with active items but is rather annoying for users.

As reloading presets does not work, atm. I have to delete it first, close preferences and then go back to presets preferences to add it again.
I do this several if not many times working on presets and to not get confused and to not have to search long lists, I often have only one preset active.
As disabling presets does not work I have to delete them.

Well, I did not know that I am nobody but remember I am far from perfect.

[Klumbumbus]

Replying to skyper:

As reloading presets does not work, atm. I have to delete it first, close preferences and then go back to presets preferences to add it again.

Just change the name of a preset and all will reload.

[Klumbumbus]

Replying to Klumbumbus:

Just change the name of a preset and all will reload.

Or use tagging presets tester plugin

[skyper]

Replying to Klumbumbus:

Replying to skyper:

As reloading presets does not work, atm. I have to delete it first, close preferences and then go back to presets preferences to add it again.

Just change the name of a preset and all will reload.

Thanks, forgot about it again, cause I had some problems with updating/reloading the selection in combination with the tagging-preset-tester plugin. Have to test it again, especially with icon paths.

[Klumbumbus]

Milestone renamed