Opened 5 years ago

Last modified 12 months ago

#20421 new enhancement

Power preset additions for transfomer and power plant — at Version 9

Reported by: Gazer75 Owned by: team
Priority: normal Milestone:
Component: Internal preset Version:
Keywords: power transformer Cc: francois.lacombe

Description (last modified by francois.lacombe)

Original claim:

Could we get the the rating and windings added for primary, secondary and tertiary on transformers?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dtransformer#Tagging

I'd also like to see a box for owner on power plant menu. The owner and operator of such facilities are often not the same.

Following the approval of ​https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Transformers_classification_refinement, it would be great to add the following changes as well please:

  • Discourage transformer=traction, transformer=auto, transformer=minor_distribution
  • Carefully replace transformer=distribution when installed in an actual substation (an area with power=substation on it)
  • Update pole with transformer preset with transformer=distribution or transformer=main (currently only with transformer=distribution). Transformer=auxiliary isn't covered as it comes with other significant equipment (switches mostly).
  • transformer=auxiliary is no more restricted to power=substation perimeters and can be used standalone as well (probably no change in JOSM validation).
  • Create transformer=main https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Atransformer%3Dmain
  • Create windings:auto=yes https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:windings:auto

Change History (9)

comment:1 by skyper, 5 years ago

Component: CoreInternal preset
Keywords: power transformer added

comment:2 by skyper, 4 years ago

I am not sure if all these subtags are suitable for defaultpresets, for now, especially the ones with low numbers in use.

Maybe, an external preset hosted on this wiki is a better solution for these special tags with low numbers or if only "in use" or "proposed" but not "approved".

comment:3 by skyper, 4 years ago

Cc: francois.lacombe added

Still only low numbers.
owner=* is ignored, so far, and is worth an own ticket as it is not tied to power tagging.

comment:4 by francois.lacombe, 4 years ago

Dear all

It's true power transformers tagging is expert stuff and could confuse most of osm mappers.
We could at least improve the power=transformer preset with windings:primary and windings:secondary beside windings=* that must remain in the preset.

However, this ticket should be paused until this proposal has been voted. A few details remain to be fixed but it is almost done.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Transformers_classification_refinement

+1 for owner=* on different ticket (and valuable for any power=* asset, not just power plants).

Best regards

comment:5 by skyper, 4 years ago

The vote will end today and it looks like the proposal will be accepted.

comment:6 by francois.lacombe, 4 years ago

Yes, the current proposal was accepted :)
Thank you Skyper for your support

I can update this ticket (once documentation completed), or create a separate one if you mind.

Final changelist is:

  • Discourage transformer=traction, transformer=auto, transformer=minor_distribution
  • Carefully replace transformer=distribution when installed in an actual substation
  • Create transformer=main
  • Create windings:auto=yes

We'll be able to add transformer=compensator as proposed by Gazer75 once documented too.

See #21836 as well for additional deprecation.

All the best

comment:7 by skyper, 4 years ago

Updating this ticket is OK, I guess, and #21836 can be fixed along side.

comment:8 by francois.lacombe, 3 years ago

Description: modified (diff)

Good Skyper, ticket was updated and wiki is up to date :)

comment:9 by francois.lacombe, 3 years ago

Description: modified (diff)

I've updated the description : I forgot to mention the pole with transformer preset.

Best regards

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