importing bus lines

[thelabxl@…]

Hello, im trying to import jeepney lines from the Philippines on JOSM but its always saying that its too big... its actually almost one Mb for 404 bus lines, isnt it reasonable ??? thats a big country, and i want to do the same with other cities/countries... Is there a way to get better limits so i can work easier ???

[anonymous]

osm file of the jeepney lines home made

[taylor.smock]

I assume you are talking about downloading data from OSM to conflate. Have you gone through the ​import process? If not, do that first.

Anyway, I would recommend using an overpass query for all nodes, ways, and relations in the area.

[GerdP]

My understand of the ticket is that they try to load the attached file and get an error message. My guess would be a 32bit JRE in that case.

[skyper]

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I have no problem opening the file in JOSM. Though as Taylor already mentioned, this file looks like an import and even the current form would be only usable as reference for the routes without stops.

[anonymous]

Hello, sorry i failed the ticket.

So i have a file with all the jeepney routes of Manila Philippines and its failing to import, it went well on google maps and im trying to do the same on osm

​https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1qaxZC1yMwC9ZIOImv2wAPlcDIv625ck&ll=14.699465589643241%2C121.05321534781078&z=13

[taylor.smock]

Replying to GerdP:

My understand of the ticket is that they try to load the attached file and get an error message. My guess would be a 32bit JRE in that case.

My understanding was they got the Download area too large; will probably be rejected by server and a Bad Request response from the server about The area you tried to download is too big or your request was too large. Both of those are working as expected (@thelabxl: the OSM server software has limits to how much data it can return in a request, we try to indicate that the server may have issues and then show the returned issue by the server).

In either case, it looks like @thelabxl wanted to import data into OpenStreetMap, which means that they should be going through the import process.

@thelabxl: We do not help with the import process itself (at least, not on this issue tracker); if you find a bug in our software and report it, we will fix that bug. You can also request an enhancement to our software. Otherwise, please follow the process I linked to in comment:1.

[thelabxl@…]

No, the map is working, its the import to osm thats not working.

I get error 429.

​https://photos.app.goo.gl/Uz36gVpsn6QLLJ3QA

[anonymous]

Yes you understood the problem. But you don't consider this as a bug ??? There is no any information about how to do something kinda basic, no any information about the limitation or anything ????

Replying to taylor.smock:

Replying to GerdP:

My understand of the ticket is that they try to load the attached file and get an error message. My guess would be a 32bit JRE in that case.

My understanding was they got the Download area too large; will probably be rejected by server and a Bad Request response from the server about The area you tried to download is too big or your request was too large. Both of those are working as expected (@thelabxl: the OSM server software has limits to how much data it can return in a request, we try to indicate that the server may have issues and then show the returned issue by the server).

In either case, it looks like @thelabxl wanted to import data into OpenStreetMap, which means that they should be going through the import process.

@thelabxl: We do not help with the import process itself (at least, not on this issue tracker); if you find a bug in our software and report it, we will fix that bug. You can also request an enhancement to our software. Otherwise, please follow the process I linked to in comment:1.

[taylor.smock]

Ok. That is not our issue.

The OSM server has introduced rate limiting specifically to avoid vandalism.

The import process has a ​section specifically about that. You can work around it by following the import process.

OSM is generally edited by people making relatively small edits (think of the data inside a city block). Some people do work up to larger edits, but the rate limiting specifically works around that by giving consistent editors a higher rate limit.

[GerdP]

And - just to mention - the data in jeepney.osm is not at all suitable for an import into OSM. I didn't even think about the idea that someone would try to upload that.

[anonymous]

Replying to GerdP:

And - just to mention - the data in jeepney.osm is not at all suitable for an import into OSM. I didn't even think about the idea that someone would try to upload that.

Oh, why so ??? On my end its literally the opposite, I'm wondering why it didn't happen 10 years ago. You don't think it's important than people have access to informations about public transportation online???

About the data, JOSM can show the the data without any issues so why its not suitable ???? Any better system to give everyone access to these crucial informations ????

[GerdP]

Read the rules about imports and you'll understand. This isn't related to JOSM, only to the rules of the project OSM.

[skyper]

As a mapper who added, updated and fixed quite a lot of public transport relations, I can tell you that OSM is quite interested in the bus routes. Though there are quite some rules regarding imports and public transport tagging is one of the most complex tasks which often needs some experience. As this has nothing to do with JOSM, I invite you to move over to e.g. ​https://community.osm.org to discuss the issues and help you understanding the import and the tagging.

[skyper]

See ​https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/errors-occurred-while-trying-to-save-precondition-failed/107817