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Last modified 2 years ago

#22218 assigned enhancement

Warn when highway=living_street is combined with bicycle_road=yes

Reported by: GerdP Owned by: GerdP
Priority: normal Milestone:
Component: Core validator Version:
Keywords: template_report Cc: Klumbumbus


What steps will reproduce the problem?

  1. have a way tagged highway=living_street
  2. add tag bicycle_road=yes
  3. run validator

What is the expected result?

Warning that these tags are mutually exclusive

What happens instead?

no warning or information

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Changeset discussion:

Build-Date:2022-07-08 01:44:25

Identification: JOSM/1.5 (18513 en) Windows 10 64-Bit
OS Build number: Windows 10 Home 2009 (19044)
Memory Usage: 414 MB / 1972 MB (235 MB allocated, but free)
Java version: 17.0.3+7-LTS, Azul Systems, Inc., OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM
Look and Feel:
Screen: \Display0 1920×1080 (scaling 1.00×1.00)
Maximum Screen Size: 1920×1080
Best cursor sizes: 16×16→32×32, 32×32→32×32
System property file.encoding: Cp1252
System property sun.jnu.encoding: Cp1252
Locale info: en_DE
Numbers with default locale: 1234567890 -> 1234567890
VM arguments: [, --add-modules=java.scripting,java.sql,javafx.controls,,javafx.swing,javafx.web, --add-exports=java.base/, --add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.imageio.plugins.jpeg=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.imageio.spi=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-opens=java.base/java.nio=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-opens=java.base/jdk.internal.loader=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-opens=java.base/jdk.internal.ref=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-opens=java.desktop/javax.imageio.spi=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text.html=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED,\AppData\Local\JOSM\HWConsole.exe]

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Validator rules:
+ c:\josm\core\resources\data\validator\geometry.mapcss
+ c:\josm\core\resources\data\validator\unnecessary.mapcss
+ d:\java_tools\JOSM\mygeometry.mapcss

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Change History (13)

comment:1 by GerdP, 2 years ago

Owner: changed from team to GerdP
Status: newassigned

comment:2 by GerdP, 2 years ago

Cc: Klumbumbus added

I think it could be just another clause in the {0.tag} together with {1.key} block, but since bicyle_road is a Germany-only tag it might better be placed in the Germany specific rules?

  • resources/data/validator/combinations.mapcss

    298298*[actuator][handle][actuator !~ /(^|;)manual(;|$)/],
    299299*[mechanical_driver][handle][mechanical_driver !~ /(^|;)manual(;|$)/],
    301302way[oneway=yes][/:forward/ ][!traffic_sign:forward ][bicycle:forward!=use_sidepath ][/^oneway:(bicycle|bus|mofa|moped|psv)$/!~/^no$/],
    302303way[oneway=-1 ][/:backward/][!traffic_sign:backward][bicycle:backward!=use_sidepath][/^oneway:(bicycle|bus|mofa|moped|psv)$/!~/^no$/],

in reply to:  2 comment:3 by Klumbumbus, 2 years ago

Replying to GerdP:

it might better be placed in the Germany specific rules?

Both would be fine. Since it is not really such a big problem (62 cases global) I would probably rather add it to the Germany specific rules

Overpass turbo wizard: type:way and bicycle_road=yes and highway=living_street global

comment:4 by GerdP, 2 years ago

Do you know how many users in Germany activate those extra rules? I didn't use them before writing this ticket.

comment:5 by Klumbumbus, 2 years ago


comment:6 by GerdP, 2 years ago

Hm, add it where you think it's best. We can move it later if needed.

comment:7 by skyper, 2 years ago

The combination is always wrong on the globe.
How about a warning for countries where bicycle_road=* is invalid in general plus a warning for the combination in countries where it is valid? Both in JOSM core.

comment:8 by GerdP, 2 years ago

My understanding is that bicycle_road=yes outside of Germany should produce a warning, so far it's a Germany-only tag.

comment:9 by skyper, 2 years ago

According to the German wiki page bicycle_road=yes is valid in Austria.
Where it is invalid, Key:cyclestreet could be suggested.

comment:10 by GerdP, 2 years ago

Ah, you are right. I only looked at the english wiki which says "This is a specific German concept".

in reply to:  8 comment:11 by Klumbumbus, 2 years ago

Replying to GerdP:

bicycle_road=yes outside of Germany should produce a warning

If users in [insert random country here] like to use this tag (probably with an own country specific definition), this is perfectly fine imho. We should not "forbid" it.

comment:12 by GerdP, 2 years ago

No, in that case we cannot assume anything about the meaning of the tag.

comment:13 by skyper, 2 years ago

My understanding is that bicycle_road=* is restricted to a few countries with the strict meaning as designated road for bicycles and every other transport mode (except foot) needs an additional sign. In all other countries the less stricter cyclestreet=* might be the proper tag. In Germany and probably Austria cyclestreet=* is invalid

Regarding highway=* only a few values are valid combinations, e.g. all values above unclassified plus many lower class values. In Germany only unclassified, residential, service and path are valid values.

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