potential update of validator rule: highway=footway & foot=designated

[anonymous]

It seems the current validator generates issues when the tag-combination (highway=footway &
foot=designated) takes place.
The warning message is "unnecessary tag - foot=designated is unnecessary for highway=footway"

Example object: ​https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/11344525

In the wiki I found places for a recommendation that both tags (highway=footway &
foot=designated) are okay to put them together on the same (way-)object.

Example wiki pages: ​https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dfootway (first example in table)

Also a German traffic sign tool recommends combination of highway=footway &
foot=designated, see ​https://osmtools.de/traffic_signs/index.html?signs=239

So we have more than one recommendation for this combination and JOSM has a warning against this combination.

This of course can lead to unwanted edit wars.

So maybe you could consider to remove the JOSM-warning, if it makes sense & if the little bit redundancy isn't a real issue?

[anonymous]

See also another wiki recommendation:
​https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attributierung_von_Stra%C3%9Fen_in_Deutschland#Ausgeschilderter_Fu.C3.9Fweg_-_Gebot_.28Zeichen_239.29

[anonymous]

See also another wiki recommendations:

​https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Dopravn%C3%AD_zna%C4%8Dky_v_%C4%8Cesku#P.C5.99.C3.ADkazov.C3.A9_dopravn.C3.AD_zna.C4.8Dky_.28Mandatory_signs.29

line: C 7a

​https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Belgium#D_Mandatory_signs

line: D11

[skyper]

Strange, especially in German the difference between footway and path with foot=yes vs. foot=designated should be state on the wiki.

In general, footway implies foot=designated and therefore the warning is correct, though, the message could say a word about "implying" like: {1} is unnecessary for {0} as it is already implied. or {0} implies {1}, therefore, {1} is unnecessary.

[anonymous]

Replying to skyper:

Strange, especially in German the difference between footway and path with foot=yes vs. foot=designated should be state on the wiki.

Yes, especially there are more and more users of the traffic-sign tool "Verkehrszeichen Tool" (​https://osmtools.de/traffic_signs/index.html?signs=239) and this tool gives the recommendation of combination highway=footway & foot=designated as already mentioned above.
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In general, footway implies foot=designated and therefore the warning is correct, though, the message could say a word about "implying" like: {1} is unnecessary for {0} as it is already implied. or {0} implies {1}, therefore, {1} is unnecessary.

Yes, an update of the (warning) message text would be great.

So far i understand, the JOSM validation message system has a setup of 3 categories/levels (errors, warnings and info's) Maybe the this check for combination of highway=footway & foot=designated could be moved from warning-level to info-level?

[Klumbumbus]

Closed as duplicate of #19862.