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#18698 new enhancement

Request: Add (motor_)vehicle combo to highway=path preset

Reported by: AnkEric Owned by: team
Priority: normal Milestone:
Component: Internal preset Version:
Keywords: highway path motor vehicle access Cc:

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In Closed ticket https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/18642 you have also implemented:
"Add vehicle combo to highway=track preset"
Oké, nice! Appreciated. I get more than I have asked for.

But than I would like to suggest to not only Add vehicle combo to highway=track, but also (and - imo - even more important) to highway=path preset.

Most annoying (to me) a highway=path is added on OSM without any access restriction.
Therefore (default access): bicycle/mofa/moped=yes is implied. Sometimes this is correct, sometimes not. So my GPS might be directing me - on bicycle - over a path which is in fact a "footway".
Sometimes this is "resolved" the wrong - IMO - way: [highway=path] + [access=no] + [foot=yes].
Because this is "less work" than [highway=path] + [bicycle=no] + [moped=no] + [mofa=no] + [horse=no] and better than [highway=path] + [bicycle=no] ?
Next mapper might change to: [highway=footway] + [access=no] + [foot=yes].
Next mapper might change to: [highway=footway] + [access=no] (since "foot=yes" is "needless").
And now we have a path with no access at all.
Which was "resolved" by Reverting ALL thousands of footways in the Netherlands where "foot=yes" was removed by hundreds of "Undiscussed Mechanical Edits".
And now JOSM Validator is is bothering me with tens of warnings for each of my Changesets: "unnecessary tag - foot=yes|designated is unnecessary for highway=footway|pedestrian".
JOSM Validator is - of course - correct. Does [highway=footway] + [foot=no] exist in "on the ground"? No! IMO!
And I don't dare to resolve; -))

Correct would have been initial mapping as: [highway=path] + [vehicle=no].
And a JOSM preset might help... a little...

/ AnkEric

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comment:1 Changed 7 days ago by AnkEric

Component: External presetInternal preset

comment:2 Changed 7 days ago by skyper

Keywords: path vehicle access added
Summary: Request: Add vehicle combo to highway=track presetRequest: Add (motor_)vehicle combo to highway=path preset

vehicle=* plus motor_vehicle=* should be added. Additionally, the link to "road restriction"-preset is nice, too.

Some transport modes from path are missing in "road restriction"-preset, namely:

  • wheelchair=*
  • ski=*
  • snowmobile=*

Considering splitting the "road restriction"-preset into two parts by extracting the transport modes into an own preset and adding links between both, is another idea.

comment:3 Changed 7 days ago by AnkEric

Thanks Skyper for your Additions.

Except for [tracktype=grade<x>] and [agricultural=*], what is (should be) different for path and track presets? Track preset is very complete, use (almost) the same preset for path as being similar?

comment:4 Changed 6 days ago by Don-vip

Keywords: highway motor added

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