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Opened 5 years ago

Closed 4 years ago

#17796 closed defect (wontfix)

don't warn about addr:housenumber without number when snc in Italy

Reported by: francians Owned by: team
Priority: normal Milestone:
Component: Core validator Version:
Keywords: template_report housenumber italy Cc: dieterdreist

Description (last modified by Don-vip)

What steps will reproduce the problem?

  1. create a node
  2. set addr:housenumber=snc

What is the expected result?

No error in Italy

What happens instead?

Gives warning

Please provide any additional information below. Attach a screenshot if possible.

I suggest this change in mapcss:

*[addr:housenumber=snc][inside("IT")] {
  set ok_housenumber;
}

Please see:

https://josm.openstreetmap.de/changeset/15144/josm

URL:https://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn/trunk
Repository:UUID: 0c6e7542-c601-0410-84e7-c038aed88b3b
Last:Changed Date: 2019-06-03 00:05:30 +0200 (Mon, 03 Jun 2019)
Build-Date:2019-06-02 22:10:24
Revision:15155
Relative:URL: ^/trunk

Identification: JOSM/1.5 (15155 it) Linux Antergos Linux
Memory Usage: 1225 MB / 3541 MB (499 MB allocated, but free)
Java version: 1.8.0_181-b13, Oracle Corporation, Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM
Screen: :0.0 1920x1080
Maximum Screen Size: 1920x1080
Dataset consistency test: No problems found

Plugins:
+ OpeningHoursEditor (34977)
+ PicLayer (35030)
+ buildings_tools (34982)
+ turnrestrictions (34977)
+ utilsplugin2 (34977)

Tagging presets:
+ ${HOME}/JOSM/miopreset.xml

Validator rules:
+ https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Rules/SuspiciousSwimming_Pool&zip=1
+ ${HOME}/JOSM/MyRules.validator.mapcss

Last errors/warnings:
- W: No configuration settings found.  Using hardcoded default values for all pools.
- E: Errore nella inizializzazione del test MapCSSTagChecker:

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Change History (11)

comment:1 by Klumbumbus, 5 years ago

snc means "without number? Is it agreed in the italian osm community to use this tag for such houses? Is it documented somewhere?

comment:2 by Klumbumbus, 5 years ago

Component: CoreCore validator

comment:3 by Klumbumbus, 5 years ago

Summary: warn about addr:housenumber without number when snc in Italydon't warn about addr:housenumber without number when snc in Italy

comment:4 by Klumbumbus, 5 years ago

Cc: dieterdreist added

comment:5 by dieterdreist, 5 years ago

IMHO it is not ok, because „no housenumber“ is not a housenumber. I have made a proposal for nohousenumber=yes for these cases, but it is relatively new. I can confirm that people commonly use „snc“ when no housenumber has been assigned (it literally means no housenumber = senza numero civico).

comment:6 by Klumbumbus, 5 years ago

We discussed similar cases "S/N" and "bb" before in #17486. For "S/N" we still warn but we excluded "bb" in Bosnia Herzegovina as it is used there in official documents. If "snc" is not used in official documents by the government in Italy I would too keep the warning for "snc" because then it is much likely "tagging for the QA tool".

comment:7 by dieterdreist, 5 years ago

„official documents“ is very vague, I am sure there are many snc in official documents, but it doesn’t make it a housenumber. There may also be a habit to add the term into housenumber fields in forms, but again, this is just a shortcoming of those forms and not a sign that this would be a housenumber. The nohousenumber in analogy to noname=yes is a defined representation of the fact that no housenumber has been assigned. What would you say if people added “no streetname” into addr:street? I encourage you to rethink your decision on the Bosnian case as well.

comment:8 by francians, 5 years ago

osmose Devs agreed about this change request too:
https://github.com/osm-fr/osmose-backend/commit/30df15ba73d3144c0f03a2dc0151890616a09d48
It is common in industrial areas

comment:9 by Don-vip, 5 years ago

Keywords: housenumber italy added

comment:10 by Don-vip, 5 years ago

Description: modified (diff)

comment:11 by francians, 4 years ago

Resolution: wontfix
Status: newclosed

I changed my mind...

nohousenumber=yes

it's currently popular enough (more than 4k nodes)...
Auto-NAK as wontfix.

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