guidelines for josm wiki tables

[Klumbumbus]

I don't really like the new style tables are written in the wiki (with line breaks). It makes the editing page confusing. See the comparison for Help/Menu/ImageryContextMenu. Any opinions?

[Don-vip]

When it fits on a single line, there's no need to add line breaks, I agree this is confusing.

[Klumbumbus]

Even if it doesn't fit on a single line I find it better as you better see in the code where the next table line start (see screenshot). With line break style it is hard to find where the next table line starts as every code line start with ||.

[stoecker]

I'm used to it from Wikipedia. It is not nice, but probably this is a fight you only can loose ;-)

[Hb---]

Replying to Don-vip:
> When it fits on a single line, there's no need to add line breaks, I agree this is confusing.
Seems that most JOSM developers have screens with a lot of pixels. So the Search is bigger than my screen in the German translation. Please see screenshot.

Even --help needs line breaks now. Nearly all linux tools need only 83 to 86 characters to display their help in the terminal.


Replying to Klumbumbus:
> With line break style it is hard to find where the next table line starts as every code line start with ||.
Well, with long lines it is hard to find where the next cell starts, see the screenshot. Really much more harder[[br]]
For easier finding the table rows I made the indent in our example Help/Dialog/RelationList wider. Between the || and the content are now two to four space characters. Please give your opinion again.

[Klumbumbus]

Seems that most JOSM developers have screens with a lot of pixels.

1280*1024 is really not the standard anymore.

Please give your opinion again.

This is even more confusing. It looks like the code lines without indentation start a new table line, but it is actually the last code line of a table line.

[Hb---]

Please see the next sample on Help/Menu/PhotoLayer.

Now the first line for a <td> is normal and has only one space as indent. All following lines for all <td> in that table row <tr> have an indent with a 4 digits. This allows editors easily to see where a new row beginns.

[Hb---]

Replying to Klumbumbus:

1280*1024 is really not the standard anymore.

Maybe, but the field of vision does not grow with more pixel.

This is even more confusing. It looks like the code lines without indentation start a new table line, but it is actually the last code line of a table line.

For tables which have the main content in the last column that seemed acceptable.
But there is a better solution.

• Each content cell has one line in WikiText.
• Each line ends with ||\, even for the last cell in a row.
• Row ends with ||.
  
• Empty rows are |||| without duplicating || for each empty cell.

[Klumbumbus]

Replying to Hb---:

Replying to Klumbumbus:

1280*1024 is really not the standard anymore.

Maybe, but the field of vision does not grow with more pixel.

It does. compare attachment:1280px_and_90chars.png​​ (green ellipses) with attachment:longline.png​

For tables which have the main content in the last column that seemed acceptable.
But there is a better solution.

I still don't like it. But I can't forbid you to do it this way.