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+Some [wikitr:/Plugins plugins] may simplify some steps, but provide less clarity about what you do: many tools, states or tags become "hidden" or even worse: simply inaccessible.
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+== Create a relation ==
+1. Button [[JOSMImage(dialogs/add)]] in [wikitr:/Help/Dialog/RelationList Relations panel]
+1. Tools specific to each [wikitr:/Help/Concepts/Object#Relations type of relation]
+
+== Add/modify/remove tags of the relation ==
+''All tags of the relations'' are entered based on {{{type=*}}} key ([wikitr:/Help/Concepts/Object#SimpleExplanation simple explanation]). You (or tools you're using) should specify {{{type=*}}} tag first, then [wikitr:/Introduction#Presets you can active presets] or add other details.
+
+1. Using buttons in the [wikitr:/Help/Dialog/RelationEditor#TagsRelation "Tags" panel of Relation editor]
+1. [wikitr:/Help/Dialog/SelectionList Select one or many relations], then add tags using regular tools that work on tags (there many of them: [wikitr:/Help#Tags Tags])
+
 == Create a parent relation ==
-Parent [wiki:Help/Concepts/Object#Relations relation] is a relation that consist of other relations as its childs.
+Parent [wikitr:/Help/Concepts/Object#Relations relation] is a relation that consist of other relations as its children.
 
 === Load or create child relations ===
+In this demo we simply pasted the relation [osmwww:relation/1152180 1152180] in active OSM data layer (make sure you have one first), other options covered at [wikitr:"/Help/Downloading data" Downloading data].
 
-In this demo we simply pasted https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1152180 in active OSM data layer (make sure you have one first), other options covered at [[Help/Downloading data]].
+[[Image(create parent relation (route_master) - 1 load data or make sure you have all child relations in relations window.png,link=,50%)]]
 
-[[Image(create parent relation (route_master) - 1 load data or make sure you have all child relations in relations window.png,nolink,50%)]]
+=== Select at least one child relation in Relations list panel ===
+In [wikitr:/Help/Dialog/RelationList Relations list panel]:
 
-=== Select at least one child relation in Relations window ===
-In [wiki:Help/Dialog/RelationList Relation list window]:
+We are holding {{{Ctrl}}} to select multiple child relations at once in Relations list panel. But there [wikitr:/Help/Dialog/SelectionList#Selection many tools to select relations].
 
-We are holding {{{Ctrl}}} to select multiple child relations at once in Relations window. But there [wiki:Help/Dialog/SelectionList#Selection many tools to select relations].
+[[Image(create parent relation (route_master) - 2 optionally use ctrl to select multiple relations.png,link=,50%)]]
 
-[[Image(create parent relation (route_master) - 2 optionally use ctrl to select multiple relations.png,nolink,50%)]]
+=== Selection list panel ===
+In [wikitr:/Help/Dialog/SelectionList Selection list panel]:
 
-=== Selection window ===
-In [wiki:Help/Dialog/SelectionList Selection window]:
+* If you did nothing: nothing was sub-selected - it means everything is selected
+* If only 2 items were selected in Selection list panel (using {{{Ctrl}}} but in this panel now), only 2 objects will be visible later on.
 
-* If you did nothing: nothing was subselected - it means everything was selected
-* If only 2 items were selected in Selection window (using {{{Ctrl}}} but in this window now), only 2 objects will be visible later on.
+Nothing (everything) is selected:
 
-[[Image(create parent relation (route_master) - 3.a refine subselection in selection window hold Ctrl and click at every child relation.png,nolink,50%)]]
+[[Image(create parent relation (route_master) - 3.a refine subselection in selection window hold Ctrl and click at every child relation.png,link=,50%)]]
 
-[[Image(create parent relation (route_master) - 3.b 2 route relations now selected in selection window.png,nolink,50%)]]
+Only 2 objects are selected:
+
+[[Image(create parent relation (route_master) - 3.b 2 route relations now selected in selection window.png,link=,50%)]]
 
 === Open Relation editor with selection ===
+Click ''Plus button'' [[JOSMImage(dialogs/add)]] in ''Relations list panel'' to ''open relation editor with selected relations'':
 
-Click ''Plus button'' in ''Relations list window'' to ''open relation editor with selected relations'':
-
-[[Image(create parent relation (route_master) - 4 open relation editor with selected relations (Plus button in Relations window).png,nolink,50%)]]
+[[Image(create parent relation (route_master) - 4 open relation editor with selected relations (Plus button in Relations window).png,link=,50%)]]
 
 === Relation editor ===
-
-In [wiki:Help/Dialog/RelationEditor Relation editor]:
+In [wikitr:/Help/Dialog/RelationEditor Relation editor]:
 
 ==== Add all of some members from selection to the left ====
+Read hover captions or [wikitr:/Help/Dialog/RelationEditor Relation editor] page about what each button does.
 
-Read hover captions or [wiki:Help/Dialog/RelationEditor Relation editor] page about what each button does.
-
-[[Image(create parent relation (route_master) - 5 add all selected members to the left.png,nolink,50%)]]
+[[Image(create parent relation (route_master) - 5 add all selected members to the left.png,link=,50%)]]
 
 ==== Add tags to parent relation ====
+1. Use [wikitr:/Help/Dialog/RelationEditor#TagMember top part or relation editor] to add tags. ''Tags are different depending on what you want to detail, seek for help if you have questions about tags;'' \\
+1. Press "OK"
 
-1. Use top part or relation editor to add tags. ''Tags are different depending on what you want to detail, seek for help if you have questions about tags;''[[br]]
-2. Press {{{OK}}}
+[[Image(create parent relation (route_master) - 6 add tags to parent relation (top part or relation editor) and press ok.png,link=,50%)]]
 
-[[Image(create parent relation (route_master) - 6 add tags to parent relation (top part or relation editor) and press ok.png,nolink,50%)]]
+
+== Remove or edit child relations ==
+In public transport schema this is similar to edit/removing detour {{{route}}} relations from {{{route_master}}} relation.
+
+1. [wikitr:/Help/Dialog/SelectionList#Selection Select a relation] that has other relations as it's members, open [wikitr:/Help/Dialog/RelationEditor Relation editor].
+1. Select one or more members from the left (hold {{{Ctrl}}} to select multiple) and use according button, as described here: [wikitr:/Help/Dialog/RelationEditor#MembersList Bottom half left side members]
+
+== Remove parent relations ==
+Impossible ATM, but you can navigate to parent relation and remove respective child.
+
+Select proper parent and press "edit" button in [wikitr:/Help/Dialog/RelationEditor#ParentRelations Parent Relations tab].
+
+== Duplicate a relation ==
+1. Button in [wikitr:/Help/Dialog/RelationList Relations list panel]
+1. Button in [wikitr:/Help/Dialog/RelationEditor#Buttonsontop Relation editor]
+1. TODO: other more specific tools
+
+== Remove a relation ==
+Please only remove relations when object in the world world is no longer exist.
+Please [osmwiki:Good_practice#Keep_the_history keep history] whatever possible: select all members, remove them and add new members - this way you will continue editing of "old" relation.
+
+1. Button in [wikitr:/Help/Dialog/RelationEditor#Buttonsontop Relation editor]
+
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