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Opened 14 years ago

Closed 14 years ago

Last modified 14 years ago

#6710 closed enhancement (wontfix)

Add a button to take paternity of selected items

Reported by: GuillaumeAudirac Owned by: framm
Priority: major Milestone:
Component: Plugin licensechange Version:
Keywords: data paternity Cc:

Description

In the process of replacing non-ODbL data, I can only delete the objects detected by the licensechange plugin and replace manually them with new data. For places I know very well, this process is tedious and uneffective.
I would love to have a button "Take Paternity" in the licensechange frame to automatically delete the items selected in the list and replace them with new ones with the same positions/tags/relations/...

Change History (6)

comment:1 by GuillaumeAudirac, 14 years ago

Or in the right-click menu.

comment:2 by stoecker, 14 years ago

Resolution: wontfix
Status: newclosed

You can't automatically copy the old data and take ownership. This is impossible. The data would be under the same license as it was before and if the original author omplains, we have a lot of trouble.

in reply to:  2 comment:3 by skyper, 14 years ago

Replying to stoecker:

You can't automatically copy the old data and take ownership. This is impossible. The data would be under the same license as it was before and if the original author complains, we have a lot of trouble.

Actually that happens right now !
I do not know what the license plugin has to do with this issue but at least it is leading this way.

Myself, I might have to complain about many changes, gonna check next month.

comment:4 by stoecker, 14 years ago

Replacing old data is perfectly OK, but direct copy is not.

comment:5 by framm, 14 years ago

I believe there will have to be some way for users to say: "this object looks like it might be tainted license-wise but it is not, and I take full responsibility for that statement". For example if an object has been changed by a bot or someone has corrected a typo; these actions do not give the author a copyright so even if the bot or the person correcting the typo has not agreed, the object is clean to relicense without any changes - but it will always show up as problematic in the license change plugin because the plugin cannot make the distinction.

So yes, there will be some sort of "take ownership" button but it will come with a huge red warning telling you that abuse will possibly land you in jail ;) and it has to be done very carefully in order not to send the wrong signal. I think this issue should be revisited later in the process; it is too early to have such a button, it would only be misunderstood.

comment:6 by GuillaumeAudirac, 14 years ago

My purpose was NOT to convert any data into the ODbL. It was more to make it simpler when the objects are well-known, to give some examples:

  • some nodes attached to a way, but not the way itself. Positioning is obvious. And sometimes the nodes are shared with several ways, which is more complex to change.
  • it takes also more time for objects being part of a relation (like a node "place=village" for example).

I have contributed a lot to a place I know very well, and because I relied on the existing objects from anonymous users, many corrections have to be made manually without the "take ownership" option.

The responsibility of the "taking ownership" button is clear to me, as this could affect all my contributions. I agree that could be made clear with a warning. In taking ownership, I am just saying: "This object is good to remain in the database after the transition to ODbL, I would have created it with the same position and tags".

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