advanced selection broken? WAS advanced editing / saving possibilities

[dieterdreist]

Some simple features would be really nice for better workflow:

• invert selection
• save selection (could be a checkbox in "save as" dialogue: "only selected")
• copy selection to a new/another data layer
• download inside selection (given a closed selection of one or more ways, but continuous and closed)

[stoecker]

• invert selection: select something and search "- selected"
• save selection:
  • invert your selection as above and remove everything else - now save
  • copy selection to a new layer and save it
• copy selection to a new/another data layer: create new layer, do copy&paste
• download inside selection - is impossible, API does not allow non-rectangular downloads

[dieterdreist]

Replying to stoecker:

• a) invert selection: select something and search "- selected"
• b) save selection:
  • invert your selection as above and remove everything else - now save
  • copy selection to a new layer and save it
• c) copy selection to a new/another data layer: create new layer, do copy&paste
• d) download inside selection - is impossible, API does not allow non-rectangular downloads

: thank you for this quick reply. I think that d) and c) are out (are working)

• a) is not working. Might be broken. As this functionality is already provided I think it would be nice to have additionally a dedicated action for this, but knowing it now myself it is for me personally OK (if it would work). I tried with " and without them, with space and without, but for '- selected' it selects everything and for '"- selected"' it selects nothing (and alerts this)

• b1) "invert your selection as above and remove everything else - now save" - this is quite dangerous and not really working, because all deleted ways will still be contained as "deleted"
• b2) "copy selection to a new layer and save it" is working like expected

[bastiK]

a) worksforme (both -selected and - selected is possible. Please provide screenshots including the search dialog and selection list if it still not working.

b1) you can purge the rest instead of deleting it

[dieterdreist]

Replying to bastiK:

a) worksforme (both -selected and - selected is possible. Please provide screenshots including the search dialog and selection list if it still not working.

Strange, now it is working (I almost exclude a typo for the 1st try because I checked twice, on the other hand: what else could it be?). What is still confusing but programmatically correct: as I selected only a way, the nodes of this way get selected as well. Is there a way to select a way plus it's nodes? For delete this exists (and for delete it exists also a way to only select the nodes by clicking on a way)

b1) you can purge the rest instead of deleting it

don't know how to do this, but I'll use b2 instead ;-)

[bastiK]

Replying to dieterdreist:

Replying to bastiK:

a) worksforme (both -selected and - selected is possible. Please provide screenshots including the search dialog and selection list if it still not working.

Strange, now it is working (I almost exclude a typo for the 1st try because I checked twice, on the other hand: what else could it be?). What is still confusing but programmatically correct: as I selected only a way, the nodes of this way get selected as well. Is there a way to select a way plus it's nodes? For delete this exists (and for delete it exists also a way to only select the nodes by clicking on a way)

search for selected | child selected. (I know it is not very intuitive...)

b1) you can purge the rest instead of deleting it

don't know how to do this, but I'll use b2 instead ;-)

Edit > Purge...

b2) assigns new ids which can be dangerous as well (e.g. duplicate nodes...)

[dieterdreist]

Replying to bastiK:

search for selected | child selected. (I know it is not very intuitive...)

but cool, thank you

Edit > Purge...

nice you can still learn...

[stoecker]

Sorry for being unclear. With remove I actually meant the "purge" option.

[dieterdreist]

Replying to stoecker:

Sorry for being unclear. With remove I actually meant the "purge" option.

looks like I'm getting premium support today ;-)
Actually I still think it would be nice to have a "save selection as" in FILE and an "invert selection" in EDIT (that does not select the nodes contained in a selected way, even though I managed to get the workaround working this seems kind of complicated for the user), and maybe some time I'm really going to learn some Java basics so I can do it myself.

[stoecker]

When we offer too many options we make it harder instead of easier for most users. These things are clearly advanced stuff, so the advanced way of solving them is perfect.

[dieterdreist]

Replying to stoecker:

When we offer too many options we make it harder instead of easier for most users. These things are clearly advanced stuff, so the advanced way of solving them is perfect.

That's true. What do you think of making in select mode ALT+click select way plus contained nodes? ALT is currently not used AFAIK. This would be somehow corresponding to Delete-mode behaviour for ALT+click.

cheers,
Martin

[bastiK]

Replying to dieterdreist:

Replying to stoecker:

When we offer too many options we make it harder instead of easier for most users. These things are clearly advanced stuff, so the advanced way of solving them is perfect.

That's true. What do you think of making in select mode ALT+click select way plus contained nodes? ALT is currently not used AFAIK. This would be somehow corresponding to Delete-mode behaviour for ALT+click.

it is taken: Shortcuts

[dieterdreist]

Replying to bastiK:

Replying to dieterdreist:

Replying to stoecker:

When we offer too many options we make it harder instead of easier for most users. These things are clearly advanced stuff, so the advanced way of solving them is perfect.

That's true. What do you think of making in select mode ALT+click select way plus contained nodes? ALT is currently not used AFAIK. This would be somehow corresponding to Delete-mode behaviour for ALT+click.

it is taken: Shortcuts

OK, sorry, could be shift+alt+leftclick or ctrl+alt+leftclick (OK this is not a newbie combination either, and for linux users might require big hands if ALT is used to move windows and you have to use ALTgr instead).