When drawing rail platform edges all nodes except the end nodes get a switch warning

[SekeRob]

Been many a platform and edge since discussion on community forum and finding the plat_edge way/tags are very sparsely used in Italy. Started a mapping crusade in my region of adding rail station platforms mostly as area and adding the edge lines with ref.

What steps will reproduce the problem?

1. Draw a platform area typically along the bend in a railway.
2. Along the platform rail side draw a line tagged as railway=platform_edge
3. Validate and get "Railway connection node without railway=switch or railway=railway_crossing" on all nodes but the ends.

What is the expected result?

No reason to flag in validation cycle.

What happens instead?

The warning in point 3 above.

Please provide any additional information below. Attach a screenshot if possible.

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Identification: JOSM/1.5 (19307 en) Windows 10 64-Bit
OS Build number: Windows 10 Home 22H2 (19045)
Memory Usage: 2188 MB / 4084 MB (851 MB allocated, but free)
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Dataset consistency test: No problems found

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+ HouseNumberTaggingTool (36368)
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+ MakeParallel (v1.1.0)
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Tagging presets:
+ <josm.pref>/EasyPresets.xml
+ https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Presets/OneClick&zip=1
+ https://raw.githubusercontent.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index/main/dist/presets/nsi-josm-presets.min.xml
+ https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Presets/Golf_Course&zip=1
+ https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Presets/AdvertisingPreset&zip=1
+ https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Presets/Maxspeed-zones&zip=1
+ https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yopaseopor/traffic_signs_preset_JOSM/master/IT.zip
+ https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Presets/Manholes&zip=1
+ https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Presets/LaneAttributes&zip=1
+ https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Presets/TurnLanes&zip=1
+ https://github.com/kendzi/Simple3dBuildingsPreset/releases/download/0.9_2018-05-08/s3db-preset.zip

Map paint styles:
- https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Styles/Lane_and_Road_Attributes&zip=1
- https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Styles/Potlach2_access&zip=1
- https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Styles/Admin_Boundaries&zip=1
- https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Styles/AddressValidator&zip=1
+ https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Styles/PublicTransportV2&zip=1
+ https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Styles/SlovakiaBicycleRoutes&zip=1
+ https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Styles/ColorWays&zip=1
- https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Rules/IncompleteObjectWarnings&zip=1
+ https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Styles/Coloured_buildings_en&zip=1
- https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Styles/Enhanced_Lane_and_Road_Attributes&zip=1
+ https://gitlab.com/cartocite/josm-style-traffic-signs-orientation/-/raw/main/traffic_sign_orientation_style.zip
- https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Styles/Modified&zip=1
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- https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Styles/Maxspeed&zip=1
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- https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Styles/NewParkingFeatures&zip=1
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- https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Styles/Coloured_Streets&zip=1
- https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Styles/PriorityRoad&zip=1

Last errors/warnings:
- 00672.542 W: java.io.IOException: Attribution is not loaded yet
- 00672.543 W: java.io.IOException: Attribution is not loaded yet
- 00672.544 W: java.io.IOException: Attribution is not loaded yet
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- 00672.545 W: java.io.IOException: Attribution is not loaded yet
- 00672.546 W: java.io.IOException: Attribution is not loaded yet
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- 00672.548 W: java.io.IOException: Attribution is not loaded yet
- 00672.549 W: java.io.IOException: Attribution is not loaded yet

[SekeRob]

Absent ability to modify ticket opener (still not able to get email account verification working)

plat_edge > platform_edge

[stoecker]

Please attach an example file.

[gaben]

@stoecker, I cannot change the ticket status to needinfo, Trac saying:

• TicketWorkflowOpOwnerReporter changed "owner" to "SekeRob", but ConfigurableTicketWorkflow changed it to "team".
• Please review your configuration, probably starting with

[ticket]
workflow = ...
in your trac.ini.

[stoecker]

Some actions need two steps...

[SekeRob]

@stoecker

This is todays object with 4 nodes. ​https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1363055877 . Added 5th node, no warning on validation. Then when mapping new platform + edge having 3 nodes, the centre node is flagged. YCMTU

[stoecker]

Now when I load that OSM file and add a fifth point, then I get 3 warnings which does not match your previous comment.

Should the warnings be there or not at all? I don't know what that warnings target is, but it seem MapCSS needs an exception for that usecase.

[SekeRob]

Weird. No, that warning is false. it's a railway platform part not a rail that splits or joins with a second binary. There the switch tags would have to be added albeit never did one and on checking The bigger Pescara station which goes from 2 lines into 12 along platforms has not got a single tagged, just connection nodes.

This wiki visualized them: ​https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Arailway%3Dswitch

An Overpass run shows them largely missing if you centre Rome & Pescara on the screen (central Italy) and run the script: ​https://overpass-turbo.eu/?key=railway&value=switch&template=key-value

... totally surprised of with their greater absence, something else a crusade is needed for. 😣

[skyper]

Seem nobody thought about excluding railway=platform_edge in #21801 (r19163).

[stoecker]

In 19342/josm:

see #21801, fix #24176 - don't issue useless warning for railway=platform_edge

[stoecker]

Thanks for the hint.

[gaben]

Replying to skyper:

Seem nobody thought about excluding railway=platform_edge in #21801 (r19163).

This is exactly what happened! :) Even though I tested the committed version across Europe, it seems I missed Italy.

Tbh, I started reading the original report here and after about three sentences I lost track of what the problem was... Anyway, thanks for the report, everything is a learning opportunity.