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#17307 new defect

Cycleways map paint style emphasizes cycleway=lane more than cycleway=track

Reported by: Doug Owned by: cmuelle8
Priority: normal Milestone:
Component: External mappaint style Version:
Keywords: template_report Cc:

Description

Minor thing, but a track is per the wiki a more substantial infrastructure divided from both the main road surface and the sidewalks. The colorizing for cycleway=track is so faint as to be difficult to even notice. If tracks are actually better is complicated and depends, but that's a whole other discussion.

By the way, your ticket instructions say that email addresses inserted when not using an account aren't shown, but everything up to the @ is actually shown if entering it in the "Your email or unsername" box. It's probably better to make that more clear to avoid misunderstanding.

URL:https://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn/trunk
Repository:UUID: 0c6e7542-c601-0410-84e7-c038aed88b3b
Last:Changed Date: 2019-02-02 21:01:18 +0100 (Sat, 02 Feb 2019)
Build-Date:2019-02-04 21:50:11
Revision:14760
Relative:URL: ^/trunk

Identification: JOSM/1.5 (14760 en) Windows 10 64-Bit
OS Build number: Windows 10 Enterprise 1803 (17134)
Memory Usage: 856 MB / 989 MB (126 MB allocated, but free)
Java version: 1.8.0_201-b09, Oracle Corporation, Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
Screen: \Display0 2560x1440, \Display1 1920x1080
Maximum Screen Size: 2560x1440
Dataset consistency test: No problems found

Plugins:
+ Mapillary (v1.5.17)
+ apache-commons (34506)
+ apache-http (34632)
+ imagery_offset_db (34867)
+ jna (34867)
+ todo (30306)
+ turnrestrictions (34867)

Map paint styles:
- https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Styles/SlovakiaBicycleRoutes&zip=1
- https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Styles/Coloured_Streets&zip=1
+ https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Styles/Cycleways&zip=1
- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yopaseopor/traffic_signs_style_JOSM/master/Styles_Traffic_signs_AME.zip

Last errors/warnings:
- W: Unable to convert property left-casing-offset to type class java.lang.Float: found RelativeFloat{val=4.0} of type class org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.mappaint.mapcss.Instruction$RelativeFloat!
- W: Unable to convert property right-casing-offset to type class java.lang.Float: found RelativeFloat{val=4.0} of type class org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.mappaint.mapcss.Instruction$RelativeFloat!
- W: Unable to convert property left-casing-offset to type class java.lang.Float: found RelativeFloat{val=4.0} of type class org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.mappaint.mapcss.Instruction$RelativeFloat!
- W: Unable to convert property right-casing-offset to type class java.lang.Float: found RelativeFloat{val=4.0} of type class org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.mappaint.mapcss.Instruction$RelativeFloat!
- W: Unable to convert property left-casing-offset to type class java.lang.Float: found RelativeFloat{val=4.0} of type class org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.mappaint.mapcss.Instruction$RelativeFloat!
- W: Unable to convert property right-casing-offset to type class java.lang.Float: found RelativeFloat{val=4.0} of type class org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.mappaint.mapcss.Instruction$RelativeFloat!
- W: Unable to convert property left-casing-offset to type class java.lang.Float: found RelativeFloat{val=4.0} of type class org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.mappaint.mapcss.Instruction$RelativeFloat!
- W: Unable to convert property right-casing-offset to type class java.lang.Float: found RelativeFloat{val=4.0} of type class org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.mappaint.mapcss.Instruction$RelativeFloat!
- W: Unable to convert property left-casing-offset to type class java.lang.Float: found RelativeFloat{val=4.0} of type class org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.mappaint.mapcss.Instruction$RelativeFloat!
- W: Unable to convert property right-casing-offset to type class java.lang.Float: found RelativeFloat{val=4.0} of type class org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.mappaint.mapcss.Instruction$RelativeFloat!

Attachments (1)

track-lane.png (144.4 KB) - added by Doug 3 days ago.
violet way in lower left is a cycleway=track. Double bold blue way on the right is a cycleway=lane. You can find these live just south of the Fort d'Ivry in Paris.

Download all attachments as: .zip

Change History (12)

comment:1 Changed 8 days ago by Klumbumbus

Component: CoreExternal mappaint style

Please add a screenshot. I think you are talking about the rendering with enabled Cycleways mappaint style!?

comment:2 Changed 7 days ago by Doug

Yes, I'm talking about when the cycleways paint style is enabled, as the subject implies.

comment:3 Changed 7 days ago by Klumbumbus

OK, I thought with "Cycleways mappaint style" you meant the mappaint style (i.e. styling) of the internal mappaint style.

comment:4 Changed 7 days ago by Klumbumbus

Owner: changed from team to cmuelle8

Changed 3 days ago by Doug

Attachment: track-lane.png added

violet way in lower left is a cycleway=track. Double bold blue way on the right is a cycleway=lane. You can find these live just south of the Fort d'Ivry in Paris.

comment:5 Changed 3 days ago by Doug

I attached the requested screenshot.

I'm confused. I only know one cycleways map paint style. It's turned on under View->Map paint styles->Cycleways.

I have noticed that if cycleway:right=lane is used the behavior is quite different. As I recall then both appear non-bold. I have not tried with cycleway:both. These are just using cycleway=lane and cycleway=track.

comment:6 Changed 3 days ago by anonymous

This is an old map paint style that you do not need to use, if you do not like it.

Remember that you can always edit and use your own map paint styles.

You can even change the style in question online, or put up a revised one with a similar name.

I do not consider this a bug. It's a style I've created to emphasize cycling infrastructure with dense cities in mind and it works well in my area. It was created before the default map paint style learned to colour cycling infra tags, iirc.

If you turn that map style off, you should still see cycling infrastructure, as emphasized and coloured by the default (internal) styling preset.

Greetings

comment:7 Changed 3 days ago by anonymous

You can also browse the history of this style btw

comment:8 Changed 3 days ago by anonymous

If you want to stick with this style and modify it, try to play around with the casing-width attributes.

Or remove the relevant lane styles alltogether if you do not care for cycling lanes.

If you need a reference, because you don't understand the MapCSS syntax yet,
you can take a look at Styles/MapCSSImplementation.

comment:9 Changed 2 days ago by Doug

Of course it's free software. Nobody is required to fix anything or use anything. I'm just reporting the issue. Personally I find "internal" styling barely visible, but obviously perceptions and/or equipment differ.

All the best,
Doug

comment:10 Changed 2 days ago by Doug

Also I meant to say thanks for the advice and tips on creating personalized styles. That could be useful. Regarding removing lane styles, actually, the lane styles, at least when used with a non-qualified cycleway are the ones I like. With left right or both is another matter and also an odd inconsistency. The track style is too hard to see when zoomed out on a large busy region, for me anyway.

I can appreciate if the styles were just collected on an as-might-be-useful basis. Sometimes adding more just creates more complaints, right?

comment:11 Changed 2 days ago by anonymous

You're very welcome to improve consistency of the style.

If you want my ok before overwriting the instance of the cycleway style available online,
then you can post screenshots to this ticket. I will review and comment them, if you like.

But again, you do not strictly need my consent to overwrite the style available online.
If you know what you're doing and have a strong feeling about a fix, then just post it.

In case there's something severly bad with it, you or i can always revert it at a later time.

As I have not worked on it for a rather long time, I have no hard feelings about you changing it.

Just make sure to test it with a couple of different areas (i.e. compare rural / urban).

Rule of thumb:

  • If it looks completely different, it may make sense to add as new cycleway style.
  • If it fixes minor or consistency issues then overwriting the existing version is no problem.

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