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Opened 3 years ago

Last modified 13 months ago

#15530 new enhancement

Designated direction for railway tracks

Reported by: Zverikk Owned by: team
Priority: normal Milestone:
Component: Internal preset Version:
Keywords: railway direction Cc:

Description

Oneway tag is not applicable to railway=rail (and others, like railway=subway), because there are no legal obstacles to trains going either way. But usually there is a common direction of travel. Mappers use these tags to specify it:

These tags are used on 61k and 3.5k objects respectively. Could you please add both, ot at least the first one, to presets and the map style? It would help mappers not add oneway=yes on railway tracks and hint at the correct tagging.

Also it'd be great to validate railway+oneway combilation and suggest a better tagging.

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comment:1 Changed 3 years ago by Don-vip

Keywords: railway direction added

comment:2 Changed 3 years ago by Klumbumbus

Component: Internal mappaint styleInternal preset

comment:3 Changed 3 years ago by Klumbumbus

Hm, currently there are 88k ways with railway=* + oneway=*, which is more than the 61k ​railway:preferred_direction.
Is there a clear statement from the "railway fraction" of OSM about this tagging topic?

comment:4 Changed 3 years ago by Zverikk

Yes, oneway is not formally applicable to railways, since trains are not forbidden by law to go in opposing directions. Oneway is a kind of access: think of it as "access:backward=no". For that reason two railway communities — german and russian — invented these two tags to map designated directions of railway tracks.

comment:6 Changed 13 months ago by skyper

There are several solutions (some might be combined):

  • ignoring oneway for railway
  • using oneway:train=*, oneway:railway=* or similar
  • using access tags train:forward/backward or similar
  • using the proposed railway:preferred_direction=forway/backward/both and ​designated_direction=forward/backward/both

comment:7 Changed 13 months ago by Zverikk

Why invent new tags for what's already on the map?

comment:8 in reply to:  7 Changed 13 months ago by skyper

Replying to Zverikk:

Why invent new tags for what's already on the map?

  • What are railway:preferred_direction=forway/backward/both and ​designated_direction=forward/backward/both? New? Not any more I guess.
  • train:forward/backward is mentioned on the wiki page for designated_direction=forward/backward/both and not new.

Current numbers, all only ways:

  1. oneway=* together with railway=*: 98129 keys/oneway?filter=ways#combinations
  2. railway:preferred_direction=*: 77137 keys/railway:preferred_direction?filter=ways
  3. designated_direction=*: 14278 keys/designated_direction?filter=ways

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