Discourage using wires=* on power relations and frequency on passive power elements

[francois.lacombe]

Dear all,

As recently discovered, using wires=* key on power relations and frequency on power lines or cables can introduce redundancy and mistaking of osm data.

As suggested on wiki (​https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wires), wires refers to a physical characteristic of power lines and a validation warn should rise when used in combination with route=power on a (logical) relation.

Secondly, frequency=* refers to operation of active components of networks (radio, telecoms, power...). On power networks, it shouldn't be used on power=line, power=cable ways or power=terminal, power=insulator, power=tower, power=pole nodes.
The given reason is they are all passive elements and aren't designed for a dedicated frequency

Thank you in advance to add this to validation rules :)

[Klumbumbus]

frequency is marked as additional optional key for cable and line at their wiki pages

[francois.lacombe]

Hi Kumbumbus,

You're right, this topic is currently discussed on tagging ML.
I wasn't aware this would engage a debate but it may be interesting to wait until a conclusion.

Anyway, wires=* point sounds consistent with wiki doesn't it ?

[Klumbumbus]

Replying to francois.lacombe:

to wait until a conclusion.

Yes, should be clarified first.

Anyway, wires=* point sounds consistent with wiki doesn't it ?

Yes, semms so, I'll consider the other topics in this milestone.

[francois.lacombe]

Hi,

It seems this proposal doesn't get a direct concensus on tagging ML
I think this ticket should be closed until we vote a more complex proposal on wiki

Sorry for disturbance :)

[Klumbumbus]

The hint in the wiki about relations was just ​added this week. And there are 8316 relations with wires=*. So, wontfix for now until the tagging schema is clarified by the community.

[Klumbumbus]

(​link to tagging malinglist for reference)