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#10963 closed enhancement (fixed)

Improve default map style for place=village/town/city

Reported by: Don-vip Owned by: team
Priority: normal Milestone: 15.01
Component: Internal mappaint style Version:
Keywords: place village town city Cc: Klumbumbus

Description (last modified by Don-vip)

We could improve our handling of place=village/town/city:

  • have a distinct icon for each one of these 3 values (by its size and/or color for example)
  • maybe change default zoom level at which they appear. Cities first, then towns, then villages?

I'd like to be able to actually see cities and towns at high zoom level on attached file:


Revision: 7950
Is-Local-Build: true
Build-Date: 2015-01-11 18:57:01

Identification: JOSM/1.5 (7950 SVN en) Windows 8.1 64-Bit
Memory Usage: 1627 MB / 2731 MB (728 MB allocated, but free)
Java version: 1.8.0_25, Oracle Corporation, Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM
VM arguments: [-Dfile.encoding=UTF-8]
Program arguments: [--debug]
Dataset consistency test: No problems found

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places.png (479.4 KB) - added by Don-vip 5 years ago.
place.png (3.9 KB) - added by Klumbumbus 4 years ago.
fiter.png (211.3 KB) - added by Klumbumbus 4 years ago.

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Changed 5 years ago by Don-vip

Attachment: places.png added

comment:1 Changed 5 years ago by Don-vip

Description: modified (diff)

comment:2 Changed 5 years ago by skyper

Please, also look at hamlet, suburb, neighbourhood, isolated_dwelling and maybe even farm.

The real problem is the diversification in density across the globe but also within small areas. So far, I did not find any style which is managing this job acceptably, and Mapnik-carto is failing completely.

Changed 4 years ago by Klumbumbus

Attachment: place.png added

comment:3 Changed 4 years ago by Klumbumbus


I can imagine different colors for every place type. Currently we use only two. (Hamlet, Farm, Isolated Dwelling and Neighbouhood should share a color to make it less colorful)
For hiding or displaying special place types maybe filters are the better choice than zoom levels.

Last edited 4 years ago by Klumbumbus (previous) (diff)

Changed 4 years ago by Klumbumbus

Attachment: fiter.png added

comment:4 Changed 4 years ago by Klumbumbus

example filter place=* -place=city -place=town



Last edited 4 years ago by Don-vip (previous) (diff)

comment:5 Changed 4 years ago by Klumbumbus

Also with object-z-index we could make sure, that higher order place icons are always drawn on top of lower order place icons (if they are near to each other on low zoom). Currently I think the order depends on the id.

comment:6 Changed 4 years ago by Don-vip

Agreed, a filter is enough for my use case.

comment:7 Changed 4 years ago by skyper

Still different colours and a priority by order would be nice enhancements.

comment:8 Changed 4 years ago by Klumbumbus

Milestone: 15.01

comment:9 Changed 4 years ago by Klumbumbus

In 7976/josm:

see #10963 - add more colored place icons and improve paint order

comment:10 Changed 4 years ago by Klumbumbus

Resolution: fixed
Status: newclosed

comment:11 in reply to:  9 Changed 4 years ago by skyper

While I like the different colours in the preset and on low zoom, they fail on high zoom and in representing a nice order. In my understanding we have city - town - village - hamlet - isolated_dwelling in one line while suburb - neighborhood and farm are always parts of one of the first.

Right now it is not possible to distinguish between a wrongly tagged farm which should be an isolated_dwelling or the opposite. Same is true for hamlet <-> neighborhood.

Sadly, above examples are often true (values mixed up) and I still have to select the node to check it.

Maybe it is possible to change the order of colour a little bit and use some lighter green and white/grey as additional colours. Thanks

Last edited 4 years ago by skyper (previous) (diff)

comment:12 Changed 4 years ago by Klumbumbus

Resolution: fixed
Status: closedreopened

comment:13 Changed 4 years ago by Klumbumbus

In 7984/josm:

see #10963 - improve color and order of place icons

comment:14 Changed 4 years ago by Klumbumbus

Should be ok now. Can you please check tomorrow skyper?

comment:15 Changed 4 years ago by Klumbumbus

In 7985/josm:

see #10963 - add white place icon for openGeoDB:type

comment:16 in reply to:  14 Changed 4 years ago by skyper

Resolution: fixed
Status: reopenedclosed

Replying to Klumbumbus:

Should be ok now. Can you please check tomorrow skyper?

Thanks, much better now.

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