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Opened 9 years ago

Closed 8 years ago

#10773 closed defect (fixed)

[Patch] Map status tooltip: ise "Easting" and "Northing" for projected coordinate systems

Reported by: TobWen Owned by: team
Priority: normal Milestone: 16.02
Component: Core Version: latest
Keywords: coordinates format tooltip Cc:

Description

Since this bug only might occure in the German translation, I'll report this bug in the German language.

Die Felder links unten in JOSM geben Koordinaten mit einem horizontalen und vertikalen Zeichen an. Selbst wenn man in einem projizierten Koordinatensystem, wie Merkator, arbeitet, steht im Tooltip jedoch:

"Die geographische Breite an der Mausposition." bzw. "Die geographische Länge..."

Dies ist jedoch falsch, da es sich um ein x/y-Koordinatensystem handelt. Korrekt wäre: der Abstand zum jeweiligen Zentralmeridian (West-Ost) und - in der Regel - zum Äquator (Nord-Süd). Man spricht oft von Rechts- und Hochwert oder Ost- und Nordwert.

Die horizontalen und vertikalen Striche könnten Benutzer ferner irritieren, da "horizontal" in der Regel mit der x-Achse und "vertikal" mit der y-Achse in Verbindung gebracht wird. Bewegt man nun den Mauszeiger von West nach Ost, steigt der Wert beim vertikalen Symbol an. Wenn man sich vor Augen hält, dass die kleine Kugel die Erde darstellt, wird klar, dass der vertikale Strich der Äquator sein soll. Die Abbildung stimmt natürlich, da ja hinter den projizierten Koordinaten auch geographische Koordinaten liegen, der Tooltip ist so aber definitiv falsch.

Einwurf: In irgendeiner Fachliteratur stand mal, dass Geodäten x- und y-Achse verdrehen. In den letzten 6 Jahren habe ich kein Beispiel dafür gefunden.

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10773.patch (1.8 KB ) - added by simon04 8 years ago.
northing.svg (3.1 KB ) - added by simon04 8 years ago.
possible northing icon
easting.svg (3.1 KB ) - added by simon04 8 years ago.
possible easting icon

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Change History (11)

in reply to:  description ; comment:1 by Don-vip, 9 years ago

Resolution: invalid
Status: newclosed

Replying to TobWen:

Since this bug only might occure in the German translation, I'll report this bug in the German language.

Please don't create tickets for translation issues. See Translations to see how to fix translations by yourself.

in reply to:  1 comment:2 by TobWen, 9 years ago

Replying to Don-vip:

Replying to TobWen:

Since this bug only might occure in the German translation, I'll report this bug in the German language.

Please don't create tickets for translation issues. See Translations to see how to fix translations by yourself.

Argh, you didn't get what the report was about. Okay, let me explain it in English:

The tooltip of the coordinates on the lower left explains that it shows geographic latitude and geographic longitude even when you're using a projected coordinate system, like Mercator.

The correct terms for projected coordinates might be easting or northing, but changing the language file doesn't help here. There needs to be code added, which distinguishes between projected or geographic coordinate systems.

comment:3 by TobWen, 9 years ago

Resolution: invalid
Status: closedreopened

comment:4 by Don-vip, 9 years ago

OK. Well this has nothing to do with German language, next time please write it directly in English, there's a good reason why we ask bugreports in this language: it's the only one we all speak :)

comment:5 by Don-vip, 9 years ago

Keywords: projection added
Status: reopenednew
Summary: Tooltip falsch: geographische Länge und Breite bei projiziertem SystemUse "Easting" and "Northing" for projected coordinate systems

comment:6 by TobWen, 9 years ago

Okay okay... Then let me finish the translation.

Additionally: The horizontal and vertical lines, which indicate Latitude/Longitude or Easting/Northing could irritate the user. Based on school math, "horizontal" means x-axis and "vertical" means y-axis. For example, as you move the mouse pointer from south to north, the value on the horizontal icon increases. If one keeps in mind that the small "ball" represents Earth, it is clear that the horizontal bar should represent the equator. Actually, this figure is only true, when a geographical coordinate system is used.

comment:7 by simon04, 8 years ago

Keywords: coordinates format tooltip added; projection removed
Milestone: 16.02
Summary: Use "Easting" and "Northing" for projected coordinate systems[Patch] Map status tooltip: ise "Easting" and "Northing" for projected coordinate systems

by simon04, 8 years ago

Attachment: 10773.patch added

by simon04, 8 years ago

Attachment: northing.svg added

possible northing icon

by simon04, 8 years ago

Attachment: easting.svg added

possible easting icon

comment:8 by simon04, 8 years ago

Resolution: fixed
Status: newclosed

In 9346/josm:

fix #10773 - Improve map status display for projected coordinate systems

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