id summary reporter owner description type status priority milestone component version resolution keywords cc 23827 Operation was not performed, as per delete_outside_nodes preference jfd553 team "==== What steps will reproduce the problem? 1. Not sure, I was editing a multipolygon (natural = wood) with all its rings downloaded. 2. I opened the only inner ring, joined it to the adjacent outer ring 3. I tried to delete the remaining inner ring segment and got the warning. 4. Tried ""Update selection"" for each of the related segments/relation. 5. Tried ""Download parent way/relation..."" for each of the related segments/relation. 6. Tried to download a larger area around my edits. 7. Still getting that silly warning. ==== What is the expected result? Such operation used to be done without warning. ==== What happens instead? Cannot complete what seems an obvious operation. ==== Please provide any additional information below. Attach a screenshot if possible. I have been doing complex operations with JOSM for over a decade. For the past few months, I have been constantly interrupted while performing such operations that used to be obvious. I don't see what I am missing, as if new implicit rules have been established. If so, the rules should appear/be referenced in the warning messages. I have attached a screenshot that shows the situation and a text file that provide JOSM internal info on the relation, its components and the way I am trying to delete (Josm View > Advance info ...) {{{ Relative:URL: ^/trunk Repository:UUID: 0c6e7542-c601-0410-84e7-c038aed88b3b Last:Changed Date: 2024-07-02 17:10:50 +0200 (Tue, 02 Jul 2024) Revision:19128 Build-Date:2024-07-03 01:31:15 URL:https://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn/trunk Identification: JOSM/1.5 (19128 en) Windows 11 64-Bit OS Build number: Windows 10 Pro 23H2 (22631) Memory Usage: 1988 MB / 8140 MB (1215 MB allocated, but free) Java version: 21.0.3+9-LTS, Azul Systems, Inc., OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Look and Feel: com.sun.java.swing.plaf.windows.WindowsLookAndFeel Screen: \Display0 1920x1080x32bpp@60Hz (scaling 1.00×1.00) Maximum Screen Size: 1920×1080 Best cursor sizes: 16×16→32×32, 32×32→32×32 System property file.encoding: UTF-8 System property sun.jnu.encoding: Cp1252 Locale info: en_US Numbers with default locale: 1234567890 -> 1234567890 VM arguments: [-Dicedtea-web.bin.location=%UserProfile%\AppData\Local\Programs\OpenWebStart\javaws, -Djava.util.Arrays.useLegacyMergeSort=true, --add-reads=java.base=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-reads=java.desktop=ALL-UNNAMED,java.naming, --add-reads=java.naming=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.desktop/javax.jnlp=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.base/com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.base/sun.net.www.protocol.jar=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.base/sun.security.action=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.base/sun.security.provider=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.base/sun.security.util=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.base/sun.security.validator=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.base/sun.security.x509=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.base/jdk.internal.util.jar=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.base/sun.net.www.protocol.http=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.X11=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.applet=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop,jdk.jsobject, --add-exports=java.naming/com.sun.jndi.toolkit.url=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-modules=java.scripting,java.sql,javafx.controls,javafx.media,javafx.swing,javafx.web, --add-exports=java.desktop/com.apple.eawt=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.imageio.spi=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.imageio.plugins.jpeg=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-exports=javafx.graphics/com.sun.javafx.application=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-exports=jdk.deploy/com.sun.deploy.config=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-opens=java.base/java.nio=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-opens=java.base/jdk.internal.loader=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-opens=java.base/jdk.internal.ref=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-opens=java.desktop/javax.imageio.spi=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text.html=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED, -Djava.security.manager=allow] Dataset consistency test: No problems found Plugins: + ImportImagePlugin (36184) + PicLayer (1.0.3) + apache-commons (36273) + ejml (36176) + geotools (36273) + jackson (36273) + jaxb (36118) + jts (36004) + measurement (36256) + reverter (36256) + tageditor (36258) + turnlanes-tagging (0.0.5) + turnrestrictions (36226) + utilsplugin2 (36241) Last errors/warnings: - 00000.259 W: extended font config - overriding 'filename.Malgun_Gothic=malgun.ttf' with 'MALGUN.TTF' - 00000.261 W: extended font config - overriding 'filename.Myanmar_Text=mmrtext.ttf' with 'MMRTEXT.TTF' - 00000.262 W: extended font config - overriding 'filename.Mongolian_Baiti=monbaiti.ttf' with 'MONBAITI.TTF' - 00002.575 W: Unable to request certificate of https://roottest-g3.pkioverheid.nl - 00002.967 W: Unable to request certificate of https://roottest-g3.pkioverheid.nl - 00007.944 E: unable to find dependency jaxb for plugin geotools - 04723.032 W: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out. Cause: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out }}} " defect new normal Core template_report