id summary reporter owner description type status priority milestone component version resolution keywords cc 23820 Cannot delete empty relation jfd553 jfd553 "==== What steps will reproduce the issue? 1. I am not sure about the initial state. Probably deleting all relation components without editing the relation (opening the relation’s editing window). 2. Run the validator, which reports empty relations. 3. Try to delete the empty relation. ==== What is the expected result? I used to be able to delete empty relations. ==== What happens instead? A warning stating “The operation was not performed, according to the delete_outside_nodes preference”. So, I can't delete the empty relation, since its components are deleted. I don’t want to send back an empty relation to OSM, but closing JOSM without saving changes, I will lose hundreds of edits I made. ==== Please provide any additional information below. Attach a screenshot if possible. IFAIK, the empty relations shown by the Validator come from a wooded island inside an intermittent water body that I deleted. {{{ Relative:URL: ^/trunk Repository:UUID: 0c6e7542-c601-0410-84e7-c038aed88b3b Last:Changed Date: 2024-07-02 17:10:50 +0200 (Tue, 02 Jul 2024) Revision:19128 Build-Date:2024-07-03 01:31:15 URL:https://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn/trunk Identification: JOSM/1.5 (19128 en) Windows 11 64-Bit OS Build number: Windows 10 Pro 23H2 (22631) Memory Usage: 980 MB / 8140 MB (209 MB allocated, but free) Java version: 21.0.3+9-LTS, Azul Systems, Inc., OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Look and Feel: com.sun.java.swing.plaf.windows.WindowsLookAndFeel Screen: \Display0 1920x1080x32bpp@60Hz (scaling 1.00×1.00) Maximum Screen Size: 1920×1080 Best cursor sizes: 16×16→32×32, 32×32→32×32 System property file.encoding: UTF-8 System property sun.jnu.encoding: Cp1252 Locale info: en_US Numbers with default locale: 1234567890 -> 1234567890 VM arguments: [-Dicedtea-web.bin.location=%UserProfile%\AppData\Local\Programs\OpenWebStart\javaws, -Djava.util.Arrays.useLegacyMergeSort=true, --add-reads=java.base=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-reads=java.desktop=ALL-UNNAMED,java.naming, --add-reads=java.naming=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.desktop/javax.jnlp=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.base/com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.base/sun.net.www.protocol.jar=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.base/sun.security.action=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.base/sun.security.provider=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.base/sun.security.util=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.base/sun.security.validator=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.base/sun.security.x509=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.base/jdk.internal.util.jar=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.base/sun.net.www.protocol.http=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.X11=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-exports=java.desktop/sun.applet=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop,jdk.jsobject, --add-exports=java.naming/com.sun.jndi.toolkit.url=ALL-UNNAMED,java.desktop, --add-modules=java.scripting,java.sql,javafx.controls,javafx.media,javafx.swing,javafx.web, --add-exports=java.desktop/com.apple.eawt=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.imageio.spi=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.imageio.plugins.jpeg=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-exports=javafx.graphics/com.sun.javafx.application=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-exports=jdk.deploy/com.sun.deploy.config=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-opens=java.base/java.nio=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-opens=java.base/jdk.internal.loader=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-opens=java.base/jdk.internal.ref=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-opens=java.desktop/javax.imageio.spi=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text.html=ALL-UNNAMED, --add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED, -Djava.security.manager=allow] Dataset consistency test: No problems found Plugins: + ImportImagePlugin (36184) + PicLayer (1.0.3) + apache-commons (36273) + ejml (36176) + geotools (36273) + jackson (36273) + jaxb (36118) + jts (36004) + measurement (36256) + reverter (36256) + tageditor (36258) + turnlanes-tagging (0.0.5) + turnrestrictions (36226) + utilsplugin2 (36241) Last errors/warnings: - 00000.285 W: extended font config - overriding 'filename.Mongolian_Baiti=monbaiti.ttf' with 'MONBAITI.TTF' - 00002.621 W: Unable to request certificate of https://roottest-g3.pkioverheid.nl - 00003.061 W: Unable to request certificate of https://roottest-g3.pkioverheid.nl - 00008.886 E: unable to find dependency jaxb for plugin geotools - 00556.347 W: Conflict in data - This relation has been changed outside of the editor.
You cannot apply your changes and continue editing.

Do you want to create a conflict and close the editor? - 03099.574 W: Conflict in data - This relation has been changed outside of the editor.
You cannot apply your changes and continue editing.

Do you want to create a conflict and close the editor? - 08691.078 W: Conflicts detected - There was 1 conflict detected. - 08694.539 W: Deleted or moved objects - There are 2,096 objects in your local dataset which might be deleted on the server.
If you later try to delete or update them the server is likely to report a conflict.
Click Check on the server to check the state of these objects on the server.
Click Ignore to ignore. - 12712.142 W: Unsaved changes - The relation has been changed.

Do you want to save your changes? - 12714.699 W: Unsaved changes - The relation has been changed.

Do you want to save your changes? }}} " defect needinfo normal Core template_report