#20429 closed enhancement (fixed)
Add "climbing:grade:french*" grades 3/4
| Reported by: | overflorian | Owned by: | Don-vip |
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| Priority: | normal | Milestone: | 21.02 |
| Component: | Internal preset | Version: | |
| Keywords: | climbing grade french | Cc: |
Description
Hi,
The validation tool of JOSM should allow ALL the french climbing grades for the following tags:
- climbing:grade:french
- climbing:grade:french:min
- climbing:grade:french:max
- climbing:grade:french:mean
All the grades are listed in this table: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_(climbing)#Free_climbing_2
Here is the full list: 1;2;3;4a;4b;4c;5a;5b;5c;6a;6a+;6b;6b+;6c;6c+;7a;7a+;7b;7b+;7c;7c+;8a;8a+;8b;8b+;8c;8c+;9a;9a+;9b;9b+;9c
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Change History (9)
comment:1 by , 3 years ago
| Component: | Core validator → Internal preset |
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| Keywords: | climbing grade french added; #climbing #grade removed |
| Type: | defect → enhancement |
comment:2 by , 3 years ago
When I added the grades in r14591/#16525 I used the French table instead:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotation_en_escalade#Table_de_comparaison
It doesn't make the distinction between different levels of 4. It matches with my own climbing experience.
I also excluded 1-2-3. Are these grades really used outside? I only though of them as purely theoretical.
comment:3 by , 3 years ago
French Wikipedia states:
La cotation 1 correspond à un sentier escarpé tandis que la cotation 2 correspond à une progression en marchant avec éventuellement les mains pour s'équilibrer ou négocier le terrain (une corde est rarement nécessaire). En plus des mains pour s'équilibrer, la cotation 3 peut nécessiter, en complément des jambes, une traction des bras pour progresser.
Not really "climbing" to me...
comment:4 by , 3 years ago
Thanks for your reply.
I understand your concern and, from my own climbing experience, I never ever encountered a 1 or 2 grade. Grade 3 is mostly the "children area", which could make sense.
I used it with the "climbing:grade:french:min" tag here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/437303399 since there is actually a 3c grade route at this spot cf. https://www.camptocamp.org/waypoints/102840/fr/viaduc-des-fauvettes
Therefore we should add the 3 grade, and maybe 3c too.
Nevertheless I understand if you think that 3c doesn't really make sense, but I still encountered it.
comment:5 by , 3 years ago
| Milestone: | → 21.01 |
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| Owner: | changed from to |
| Status: | new → assigned |
OK to add grade 3 (+variants) and 4 variants as they exist in the real world (thanks for the link) and are used in OSM db: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/climbing%3Agrade%3Afrench%3Amin#values
We both agree that grade 1/2 are pointless :)
comment:6 by , 3 years ago
| Summary: | Change parameters of "climbing:grade:french" validation → Add "climbing:grade:french*" grades 3/4 |
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1;2;3 really? :D Everyone knows the scale starts at 4 :D