cycleway=lane not showing one side when,.......

[anonymous]

When on highway unclassified for example, the cycleway=lane is set, you get on both side the purple dash, when you set the road on oneway=yes, you get the right side this purple dash, all okay.

BUT,
when you set then oneway:bicycle=no, exception undersign by the traffic_sign on both sides of the road, this purple dash should be on both sides, it is not.

On both sides there is a marked lane(cycleway).

[Don-vip]

Can you please attach a small data set showing the problem and tell us what version of JOSM you're using?

[Allroads]

​https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/FpE4bs3upWF7ItQjxVrsbQ
There is a cycle symbol on the way (on both sides red lane), cycleway=lane
oneway=yes from the other side.
the undersign says oneway:bicycle=no

​http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/teF

the way
​http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/6765746

there should be dash on both sides.

JOSM version 13053

[Klumbumbus]

I can confirm this is a bug. I already had a quick look at the code and it seems a fix is not so trivial as I thought due to the current implementation with left/right hand traffic. I think I'll have a look at this again next month.

[Don-vip]

I can look at it. What's the involved mapcss rule?

[Klumbumbus]

/*****************/
/* cycleway tags */
/*****************/

    /* prepare lane */
way[oneway?][cycleway=lane]:righthandtraffic::core_cycleway,
way[oneway=-1][cycleway=opposite_lane]:righthandtraffic::core_cycleway {
    set laneRight;
    set righthandtr;
}
way[oneway?][cycleway=opposite_lane]:righthandtraffic::core_cycleway,
way[oneway=-1][cycleway=lane]:righthandtraffic::core_cycleway {
    set laneLeft;
    set righthandtr;
}
way[oneway?][cycleway=lane]!.righthandtr::core_cycleway,
way[oneway=-1][cycleway=opposite_lane]!.righthandtr::core_cycleway {
    set laneLeft;
}
way[oneway?][cycleway=opposite_lane]!.righthandtr::core_cycleway,
way[oneway=-1][cycleway=lane]!.righthandtr::core_cycleway {
    set laneRight;
}
way[cycleway:left=lane]::core_cycleway {
    set laneLeft;
}
way[cycleway:right=lane]::core_cycleway {
    set laneRight;
}
way[oneway=no][cycleway=lane]::core_cycleway,
way[!oneway][cycleway=lane]::core_cycleway {
    set laneLeft;
    set laneRight;
}

    /* prepare shared_lane */
way[oneway?][cycleway=shared_lane]:righthandtraffic::core_cycleway {
    set shared_laneRight;
    set righthandtr;
}
way[oneway=-1][cycleway=shared_lane]:righthandtraffic::core_cycleway {
    set shared_laneLeft;
    set righthandtr;
}
way[oneway?][cycleway=shared_lane]!.righthandtr::core_cycleway {
    set shared_laneLeft;
}
way[oneway=-1][cycleway=shared_lane]!.righthandtr::core_cycleway {
    set shared_laneRight;
}
way[cycleway:left=shared_lane]::core_cycleway {
    set shared_laneLeft;
}
way[cycleway:right=shared_lane]::core_cycleway {
    set shared_laneRight;
}
way[oneway=no][cycleway=shared_lane]::core_cycleway,
way[!oneway][cycleway=shared_lane]::core_cycleway {
    set shared_laneLeft;
    set shared_laneRight;
}

    /* prepare track */
way[oneway?][cycleway=track]:righthandtraffic::core_cycleway,
way[oneway=-1][cycleway=opposite_track]:righthandtraffic::core_cycleway {
    set trackRight;
    set righthandtr;
}
way[oneway?][cycleway=opposite_track]:righthandtraffic::core_cycleway,
way[oneway=-1][cycleway=track]:righthandtraffic::core_cycleway {
    set trackLeft;
    set righthandtr;
}
way[oneway?][cycleway=track]!.righthandtr::core_cycleway,
way[oneway=-1][cycleway=opposite_track]!.righthandtr::core_cycleway {
    set trackLeft;
}
way[oneway?][cycleway=opposite_track]!.righthandtr::core_cycleway,
way[oneway=-1][cycleway=track]!.righthandtr::core_cycleway {
    set trackRight;
}
way[cycleway:left=track]::core_cycleway {
    set trackLeft;
}
way[cycleway:right=track]::core_cycleway {
    set trackRight;
}
way[oneway=no][cycleway=track]::core_cycleway,
way[!oneway][cycleway=track]::core_cycleway {
    set trackLeft;
    set trackRight;
}

    /* render lane */
way.laneRight::core_cycleway {
    width: 2;
    color: bicycle#b100ff;
    dashes: 6, 10;
    offset: 0 - (prop("width", "default") / 2) - 2;
    major-z-index: 2.1;
    modifier: true;
}
way[prop("laneLeft","core_cycleway")]::core_cycleway2 {
    width: 2;
    color: bicycle#b100ff;
    dashes: 6, 10;
    offset: (prop("width", "default") / 2) + 2;
    major-z-index: 2.1;
    modifier: true;
}
    /* render shared_lane */
way.shared_laneRight::core_cycleway {
    width: 2;
    color: bicycle#b100ff;
    dashes: 6, 3;
    offset: 0 - (prop("width", "default") / 2) - 2;
    major-z-index: 2.1;
    modifier: true;
}
way[prop("shared_laneLeft","core_cycleway")]::core_cycleway2 {
    width: 2;
    color: bicycle#b100ff;
    dashes: 6, 3;
    offset: (prop("width", "default") / 2) + 2;
    major-z-index: 2.1;
    modifier: true;
}
    /* render track */
way.trackRight::core_cycleway {
    width: 2;
    color: bicycle#b100ff;
    dashes: 25, 8;
    offset: 0 - (prop("width", "default") / 2) - 2;
    major-z-index: 2.1;
    modifier: true;
}
way[prop("trackLeft","core_cycleway")]::core_cycleway2 {
    width: 2;
    color: bicycle#b100ff;
    dashes: 25, 8;
    offset: (prop("width", "default") / 2) + 2;
    major-z-index: 2.1;
    modifier: true;
}
    /* render opposite */
way[cycleway=opposite]::core_cycleway {
    object-z-index: 1;
    width: +0;
    color: bicycle#b100ff;
    dashes: 4,10;
}
node[cycleway=lane], node[cycleway=opposite_lane],
node[cycleway=track], node[cycleway=opposite_track],
node[cycleway=opposite] {
    icon-image: "presets/misc/deprecated.svg";
    set icon_z17;
}

[Don-vip]

It looks simpler than that. I don't see any reference to oneway:bicycle key in our map paint style, so I don't see how it could work. Or am I missing something?

[Allroads]

oneway=yes and cycleway=lane makes a dashed line on one side either for right or left handed.
If there are not two dashed lines then a mistake (made by tagger) in tagging is undone in JOSM visualisation, now there is 1 dashed line.

Tagger should always use cycleway:right or left with oneway and a one side cycleway.
A mistake by a tagger is in mapcss corrected, this can not be right. Visualisation must be true, also to see wrong tagging

And not to correct with a JOSM visualisation with a extra rule string for use oneway:bicycle=no
When using, oneway:bicycle=no, oneway=yes should make cycleway=lane a both side dashed line. Solve it this way, enhancement, I do not think so.

People use cycleway=lane, when on both side is a cycleway lane. This is correct.

[Don-vip]

Klumbumbus I'll let this one to you after all :)

[Klumbumbus]

Replying to Don-vip:

It looks simpler than that. I don't see any reference to oneway:bicycle key in our map paint style, so I don't see how it could work. Or am I missing something?

With "bug" I meant that this case (with oneway:bicycle) is not yet handled at all.

[Klumbumbus]

Replying to Allroads:

oneway=yes and cycleway=lane makes a dashed line on one side either for right or left handed. Here a mistake in tagging is undone in JOSM visualisation, tagger should always use cycleway:right or left with oneway and a one side cycleway.
This is maybe the bug.

And not to correct the JOSM visualisation with a extra rule string for use oneway:bicycle=no
When using, oneway:bicycle=no, oneway=yes should make cycleway=lane a both side dashed line. Neutralize the visualisation string.
Or is this the visualisation (bug), enhancement, I do not think so.

People use cycleway=lane, when on both side is a cycleway lane. This is correct.

It is hard to understand what you want to say, even after reading the text five times :) Could you please read again and edit your comment? Thx

[Allroads]

I edit the above comment.

[Klumbumbus]

Ticket #16422 has been marked as a duplicate of this ticket.

[Doug]

quoting Allroads:

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oneway=yes and cycleway=lane makes a dashed line on one side either for right or left handed.
If there are not two dashed lines then a mistake (made by tagger) in tagging is undone in JOSM visualisation, now there is 1 dashed line.

Tagger should always use cycleway:right or left with oneway and a one side cycleway."

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I disagree, from the Twiki:
​https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cycleway

"cycleway=lane is used to tag two-way streets where there are cycle lanes on both sides of the road, or one-way streets where there is a lane operating in the direction of main traffic flow."

Although I don't know how you'd know which side the lane is on, typically the side people drive on I guess.

Now once you get to also adding bicycle:oneway=no, then I'm not sure. It seems you should probably be using cycleway=opposite_lane and then probably an explicit left or right too.

[Doug]

Also this can be a convenient way to tag on roads that continuously go between single carriageway two-way, and dual carriageway. You can select everything and just tag it cycleway=lane, instead of needing to select all the dual carriageway bits and tagging them separately as cycleway:right/left=lane just because some bits are technically one-way.

[skyper]

The problem I see is that cycleway=* together with oneway=yes usually is interpreted as cycleway only in one direction. opposite_* are the exception but will not work in the situation of cycleways on both sides.

I would say, you need to use either :left and :right or :both which was explicitly invented for the situation with oneway roads.

oneway:bicyle is not rendered at all but this is might be worth an own ticket.