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Closed 9 months ago

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#12914 closed enhancement (fixed)

Discourage contributors to use operator=RFF and operator=ERDF in France

Reported by: francois.lacombe Owned by: Don-vip
Priority: normal Milestone: 16.12
Component: Core validator Version: tested
Keywords: validator, tags, operator, local Cc:

Description (last modified by francois.lacombe)

Hi,

Both RFF and ERDF companies have changed their identity recently or in 2015.
As infrastructure operators, the map currently contains dozen objects with operator=RFF and operator=ERDF spread in the whole metropolitan French country.

As abbreviations, it's not correct to discourage their use all around the world.
But it may be possible to create a validation rule to warn users about objects with those 2 values located in France ?
French relation : http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2202162

Correct values are :
operator=RFF => operator=SNCF Réseau
operator=ERDF => operator=Enedis

Keep up with good work guys ;)

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comment:1 Changed 16 months ago by francois.lacombe

Component: CoreCore validator
Version: tested

comment:2 Changed 16 months ago by francois.lacombe

Description: modified (diff)
Keywords: validator tags operator local added

comment:3 Changed 16 months ago by Klumbumbus

It is not yet possible to limit the area of validation rules. For now you could add "France-specific rules" similar to the others at Rules

comment:4 Changed 16 months ago by Don-vip

Owner: changed from team to Don-vip

comment:5 Changed 16 months ago by Don-vip

Type: defectenhancement

comment:6 in reply to:  3 Changed 16 months ago by Klumbumbus

Replying to Klumbumbus:

limit the area of validation rules

There was already a short discussion in another ticket whose number I don't remember.

comment:7 Changed 16 months ago by Don-vip

#10387 it's still on my todo list...

comment:8 Changed 15 months ago by Klumbumbus

On the other hand, I think this special case is a good candidate for a (previously in the french community discussed) automated edit.

(area limited validation rules would still be nice to have though)

comment:9 Changed 15 months ago by Don-vip

Milestone: 16.07

comment:10 Changed 14 months ago by Don-vip

Milestone: 16.0716.08

comment:11 Changed 13 months ago by Don-vip

Milestone: 16.0816.09

comment:12 Changed 12 months ago by Don-vip

Milestone: 16.0916.10

comment:13 Changed 12 months ago by simon04

Milestone: 16.1016.11

Milestone renamed

comment:14 Changed 10 months ago by Don-vip

Status: newassigned

comment:15 Changed 10 months ago by Don-vip

In 11247/josm:

see #9400 - see #10387 - see #12914 - initial implementation of boundaries file, replacing left-right-hand-traffic.osm, discourage contributors to use operator=RFF and operator=ERDF in France (territories rules must be manually eabled on existing installations)

comment:16 Changed 10 months ago by Klumbumbus

One of the validator rules is actually obsolete meanwhile. http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/operator=RFF is used only once.

Changed 10 months ago by Klumbumbus

Attachment: taghistory.png added

comment:17 Changed 10 months ago by francois.lacombe

The tag had been conscientiously replaced by the current value by knowledgable mappers.
The rule can be edited like 'RFF used to be French national railway operator. Be sure you know what you are doing'.
This value may not be used anymore for railway operation in France.

Question : where did you get this awesome graph of tag usage ? Is taginfo producing it on a daily basis ?

comment:18 in reply to:  17 Changed 10 months ago by Klumbumbus

Replying to francois.lacombe:

Question : where did you get this awesome graph of tag usage ? Is taginfo producing it on a daily basis ?

It's a new tool, see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TagHistory

Very interesting examples at http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Math1985/diary/39404 Also visualizes the influence of JOSM Presets/Validator on tagging.

comment:19 Changed 10 months ago by Don-vip

In 11259/josm:

see #10387 - see #12914 - add debug info for failing unit test, remove operator=RFF check as the tag does not exist anymore

comment:20 Changed 9 months ago by Don-vip

Milestone: 16.1116.12

Milestone renamed

comment:21 Changed 9 months ago by Don-vip

Resolution: fixed
Status: assignedclosed

In 11424/josm:

fix #10387, fix #12914 - enable territorial rules by default

comment:22 Changed 9 months ago by francois.lacombe

Hi Vincent,

Right on time to close 2016 en a very positive release :)

Happy New Year and thank you for all that good work!

François

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